Both Peter Gammons and MLB.com have mentioned the plausibility the Astros could fall far enough out of contention by late June and into the trade deadline that their ace, Roy Oswalt, could be dealt. While the rumor didn
Both Peter Gammons and MLB.com have mentioned the plausibility the Astros could fall far enough out of contention by late June and into the trade deadline that their ace, Roy Oswalt, could be dealt. While the rumor didn
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Gerry, Oswalt is less then 2 years older than Santana so I don’t like that argument. The numbers are similar, it is ALMOST debatable whose has had a “more successful” career to this point. I’m not going to argue that, but I thought I would point out that Santana’s career league era+ is 141, Oswalt’s is 140.
The big difference (besides name) is salary.
Oswalt
08:$13M, 09:$14M, 10:$15M, 11:$16M, 12:$16M club option ($2M buyout)
Santana
08:$19M, 09:$20M, 10:$21M, 11:$22.5M, 12:$24M, 13:$25.5M, 14:$25M club option ($5.5M buyout)
So you defiantly can’t use the age argument. With both contracts you would be locked in until after their age 34 season.
I was going to bring this up myself when I heard that from Gammons … while I don’t see it happening … in fact, it’s highly unlikely IMO … I’ve always liked Oswalt and they way he pitches … I dunno about health risks but he’d be a very good consistently competitive veteran pitcher … almost a Curt Schilling without the mouth … I’m not too sure on the package it would take to get him … but if the Stros would take Lester/Bowden/Lowrie (or maybe Moss?) I think you certainly have to think about it
I think we all agree that this trade isn’t going to happen anytime soon, but if we can acquire Roy Oswalt at the deadline, I am all for it. I even voted in the Lowrie poll question with a trade like this in mind.
It will start with Lester and Lowrie, but honestly, I think it will take 5 prospects ala Santana and Bedard (or at least 4). I would love it if we can keep Bowden and Masterson.
Off topic. Heidi Watney will replace Tina C on Nesn.
She is Hot but can she pitch in the Bullpen.
Love to have Oswalt but, under such terms, he is not our guy. A younger, more successful, AL acclimated Santana would have been a better and surer deal for Lester, Lowrie, Bowden, Moss/Crisp and we didn’t pull the trigger then.
In terms of trades, Theo can un-block Lowrie right now, as Julio’s #’s may never be better. Jed hits and fields better. We saw what Masterson can do at Fenway, and Bowden is in that league. Freeing Moss might be a good thing, as HE is blocked, and would start on most teams with +Murphy results.
I am content for our top-rotation-in-waiting, of Colon, Schill, Becket, Daisuke, Lester, Buckholz, Masterson, Bowden to turn the corner.
Good points. The struggles of the rotation, from Becket through Buchholz, and the Pen from MDC through Tavares, has created a certain nostalgia for the Santana deal. Did we blow it?
As you demonstrate, one of the arguments against that deal ($$$) is less of a factor for Oswalt, about 30% less for equal talent, which is very tempting.
The other argument against the Santana deal was betting the farm. Because of this farm system, the Sox are in first place in the league and in categories like BA and runs scored. Youk, Pedroia, Ellsbury, Lowrie, Papelbon, and a resurgent Coco, JD and Julio against whom they compete, have shined (shone?) during the long opening month of a mind and body numbing road trip against division leaders, injuries to a dozen players, a flu epidemic, and early struggles by top guns Manny & Papi.
During this time Buckholz, Lester, Hansen, MDC, Masterson, Pauley, Ellsbury, Lowrie, Thurston showed what they can become with time, as the season stabilizes and progresses.
I like Oswalt and Santana, even better than Harden and Haren. I really like hanging onto the “kids” and letting them develop . . . specifically this particular trade bait of Lester, Lowrie, Masterson, Bowden.
you left out the most important sentence of Jose Ortiz’ (the Astros beat reporter’s) paragraph:
Oswalt would demand a Santana-like re-writing of his contract to any team who wanted to trade for him.
translation: he does NOT want to leave houston
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Boston sucks. He’s not going there. Wake up you dumb asses.