Papelbon deserves to be a little frustrated

May 8, 2008 at 6:46 AM

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By Tim Daloisio

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I'll say it again....check swing, error, sacrifice, ground ball, broken bat flare. (hat tip Sox & Dawgs)

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22 Comments on "Papelbon deserves to be a little frustrated"

Posted by Tim Daloisio, May 8, 2008 12:12 AM

I will lay significant blame on this loss at the feet of Julian Tavarez too....the lead had been cut to one and he went and let them stretch it right back out.

Posted by Jc, May 8, 2008 12:12 AM

no single ball was hit hard of Paps last night, IT WAS NOT HIS FAULT.

Posted by Jc, May 8, 2008 7:21 AM

it's all Lugo's fault.

Posted by hynes, May 8, 2008 7:54 AM

Ok - I wanted to cut Lugo a bit of break earlier this week after Evan's post, but seriously he's on Renteria pace now for errors. The blown save should have gone to Lugo there. He goes to first instead of trying throw across his body to second, we win last night.

I don't know guys. Cut Cora, bench Lugo and start Lowrie? It could happen by mid-season if this keeps up. At least we don't have "Give-It-Up" Gagne this year.

Posted by Jc, May 8, 2008 8:10 AM

Nop, cut Lugo, Start Lowrie and Cora being his replacement at the end of games, Lugo is just wothless now.

Did you guys know that lugo has .362 BABIP this season?

his numbers are awful now, imagine what could happen later on when the gods of BABIP start knocking at his door?

Posted by Evan Brunell, May 8, 2008 9:23 AM

We had that game won...

Posted by Colin, May 8, 2008 10:05 AM

The rage at Lugo still burns, but it burns dimmer and dimmer. I'm still all for a pro-Cora or pro-Lowrie stance though. Paps has every right to wig out.

Remember folks, we're still atop the AL East by a decent amount and the Yanks are 4.5 games behind with their own struggles against the Indians. Here's to getting back at them tonight with our angry Texan.

Posted by Shane, May 8, 2008 10:29 AM

At least Paps didn't punch anything. I love his intensity and I realize for that to be there he will be mad when he losses, but I always cringe when I see pitchers flip their lid and start hitting things. I don't want Paps injured because lugo sucks.

Posted by Lyndsay, May 8, 2008 10:56 AM

I don't know if Lugo deserves ALL of the blame (and I can't believe I'm actually sticking up for this guy)...I would probably put the blame more on the 18 hits allowed by Buchholz, Tavarez, Aardsma, Lopez, Okajima, and Papelbon,. seriously, NONE of our pitching staff had their sh-t together last night. one error in the 9th by itself doesn't explain the other 9 runs.

#10

Posted by Ian, May 8, 2008 11:19 AM

Lyndsay,

Aardsma, Lopez and Okajima threw 3 shutout innings allowing 2 hits (Okie) and 2 walks (Aardsma). They didn't allow ANY runs. So you can't blame the entire staff last night.

Lugo does deserve all of the blame. Every time the ball gets hit to him we all cringe thinking well he's either going to boot it or make a bad throw.

Paps didn't pitch all that bad. An excuse check me swing, Lugo's error, a sacrifice, ground ball and a flare can't be blamed on Papelbon.

Lugo makes the play, there is no sacrifice and no telling what happens.

#11

Posted by Shawn Medeiros, May 8, 2008 11:45 AM

Can we decided that Lugo and Paps are to blame here. Lugo sucks we can all agree. He is becoming Renty from a couple of years ago and it is sickening.

GOD CAN WE START LOWRIE.

Paps was still a bit off in my opinion last night. Ala that high fastball Varitek had to reach to the heavens to go snatch back into play.

#12

Posted by mark, May 8, 2008 1:23 PM

"Paps was still a bit off in my opinion last night."

You're right, he should have struck out the side. Whatever.

Any other night that's 1-2-3. Fluky night, lugo error, you spouting nonsense.

#13

Posted by Sean O, May 8, 2008 2:15 PM

My assistant at work got a Dunkies flatbread today and a coffee. Julio Lugo cost her $2. She doesn't even care too much about baseball, and she doesn't like him.

It's spreading.

#14

Posted by TALL THRILL, May 8, 2008 3:33 PM

While we are throwing blame around... how about Lowrie showing a complete lack of range at 2B. Cost us at least a run.

#15

Posted by Sean O, May 8, 2008 3:52 PM

Difference: Lugo sucks and is making $9m with no upside, Lowrie is making the minimum and largely came out of nowhere. I can handle Lowrie issues, i cannot handle incompetence for $27m.

#16

Posted by Zach Hayes, May 8, 2008 4:28 PM

Trade Lugo. Just find a way to deal the guy. This isn't even reactionary, this is coming off 1+ years of total SUCK. In 2007 at least he was valuable in the field at some points, now he's not doing either particularly well.

#17

Posted by Lyndsay, May 8, 2008 5:26 PM

Ian: "Aardsma, Lopez and Okajima threw 3 shutout innings allowing 2 hits (Okie) and 2 walks (Aardsma). They didn��t allow ANY runs. So you can��t blame the entire staff last night.

Lugo does deserve all of the blame. Every time the ball gets hit to him we all cringe thinking well he��s either going to boot it or make a bad throw."

dude, I could understand if it was a low-scoring game. but how can you say that Lugo deserves ALL of the blame for losing the game??? EIGHTEEN HITS! in my opinion, that's a shitty pitching job by at least two of the five (Buck, Tavarez). we should never allow 10 runs to cross the plate - that's just inexcusable.

#18

Posted by Lyndsay, May 8, 2008 5:27 PM

and yes, Paps was totally off and DOES deserve some of the blame. he was throwing balls for the most part.

#19

Posted by Sam, May 8, 2008 6:24 PM

I agree Lyndsay ... Bad night for sure for Tavarez and Buchholz ... and Paps certainly didn't dominate like usual ... it was fluky but most nights people can't even get flukes off Paps ... so yes our pitching is somewhat to blame ... they got 10 runs ... how can it not?

But Red Sox Nation explodes against Lugo because Lugo hasn't done anything for us in the past ... he has not dominated at closer for us ... he has not thrown a no hitter ... heck even Tavarez has done more for us by just keeping Manny happy ... Lugo only seems to damage this team with his unbelievable anti-clutchness ... Lugo has sucked for so long that with a play like that last night ... of course the fingers are going to be pointed at him

I'll say it again ... the few things he does do for this team ... no longer can cover up the massive problems he causes for us ... it really is time for Lugo to go

#20

Posted by TALL THRILL, May 8, 2008 7:00 PM

mother's day miracle

#21

Posted by Sean O, May 8, 2008 7:53 PM

Grounding out to first, only to see Millar screw up a throw is helping?

#22

Posted by gerry, May 9, 2008 12:15 AM

Julio looked subdued tonight. Someone must have talked plainly to him. One example. At the end of the game, he started heading to a pop-up on Pedroia's side of the bag like he did the other night, and when Dustin called for it, Julio stopped at the SS side of 2nd base like he was pulled up on a leash. Also, his team mates were being 'polite' to him in the dugout. He is internalizing some heavy stuff, right now, I think, and something, somehow, is happening at SS. Neither Theo nor Tito are unaware.

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