October 2, 2008 at 1:29 PM

ROUNDTABLE: Does Beckett at #3 hurt?

Once a week, you'll hear from numerous Red Sox bloggers on the Internet on a Red Sox related issue, and we'll aggregate the answers here. Answers are placed in the order they were received. Thanks to everyone for participating!

How will Josh Beckett's move back to Game 3 starter affect the team? (Tell us in the comments your opinion!)

"I'm actually not that concerned, believe it or not. Jon Lester has shown that he is a big game pitcher, so I'm not worried on that end. The only concern I have is the loss of Beckett for a clinching Game 5, Lester too. The ball will go to (gulp) Dice-K..." --- Evan Brunell, Fire Brand of the American League

"The Red Sox will miss the postseason dominance of Josh Beckett in the away games. Lester and Matsuzaka are more than capable of starting games in Anaheim but I'd rather see Lester and Beckett twice in a 5 game series rather than Lester and Matsuzaka twice." --- Michael Christopher, ">Sox Addict

"Obviously, you want Beckett starting twice, but the best two pitchers still alive in the American League now are Jon Lester and Daisuke Matsuzaka. All the Sox need to do --- and all they've ever needed to do --- is split the first two games in Anaheim. The chances of doing that with Lester and Matsuzaka are not really any worse than the chances of doing it with Beckett and Lester. Another consideration is how much faith we have in Beckett's being able to turn into Postseason Beckett after a whole season of struggling to put it together. Matsuzaka may be frustrating, but he's been consistently good all year long and, unlike last postseason, shows no signs of slowing down. In short, I don't see this affecting the team much, if at all, for the frist round. If they advance and Beckett still isn't right, however, you start looking at a soft back end of the rotation that could cost the Sox in the longer series."--- Paul SF, YFSF

I may be eating crow when this posts on Thursday, but the I think Beckett's injury will hurt us because Jon Lester will be forced to start Game 1 on the road (5-5, 4.09), rather than start Game 3 at Fenway (11-1, 2.49). When Beckett was cruising, it looked like the stars were aligned for another Halos sweep, but this changed everything... Bottom Line: Hopefully we split in LA and take 2 at Fenway behind a healthy Beckett, but if those goes to 5 games... I don't care what the numbers say, I don't feel good about Dice-K in a do or die match-up with the Angels. --- Bottom Line Rob, The Bottom Line

"The issue is not moving Beckett back, it is how healthy will Beckett be when he pitches. Josh Beckett was able to bounce back nicely after the numbness in the arm issue; if he can go in game 3 the Sox should be in good shape. Lester was lights out in his last start and has some good postseason experience. He is a much better pitcher than a less than 100% Beckett. Two starts from Lester is not a big dropoff from two starts from a healthy Beckett. I think the team has confidence in their 4 starters, if you include Wake, and believes that each will put them in a position to win in October if they can get the sticks going." --- Matt O'DonnellFenway West

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7 Comments on "ROUNDTABLE: Does Beckett at #3 hurt?"

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Posted by jvwalt, October 2, 2008 1:57 PM

The Sox' 1-2-3 are as close to interchangeable as anyone's in baseball. My big concern is the same as Matt's: Will Beckett be able to come back at something close to full effectiveness?

By the way, if the Sox win game 2, I wouldn't be surprised if they hold Beckett out of game 3. Even if his injury is healing, there's no reason to push him if they sweep in Anaheim.

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Posted by Tessie's Dad, October 2, 2008 2:05 PM

If Beckett doesn't start Game 3, who does? Wakefield? Byrd? No thanks. If Beckett can go in Game 3 he should - if we can sweep the Angels [knock wood] we should, and rest the whole team for the ALCS.

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Posted by Bottom Line Rob, October 2, 2008 2:30 PM

Tessie's right. No reason to give the Halos any room to breathe... if Beckett says he can go - you go for the jugular iun Game 3 and tack up another sweep!

Also - I am still plucking the feathers out of my teeth - Lester was solid - the reg season road woes apparently mean nothing...

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Posted by jvwalt, October 2, 2008 3:17 PM

Whether or not Beckett pitches game 3 depends on exactly how severe his injury is. None of us knows that.

I'm talking about the gray area -- if he's not fully healed, but he's capable of pitching. In that scenario, he's a lot more likely to start game 3 if the series is split 1-1. He's a lot more likely to sit if the Sox are up 2-0. Frankly, I think that's a reasonable approach.

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Posted by Troy, October 2, 2008 4:12 PM

I wonder if Dice-K didn't cost what he cost the red sox if more people were on his bandwagon. Why do some Pitchers have to Pitch pretty before somebody will like him.

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Posted by Gerry, October 2, 2008 9:15 PM

I do believe the compromise between Boston and Daisuke must be that he learns to pound the plate some more, and we become comfortable with his preference for nibbling to get a K or BB, rather give up a hit. He is doing his part. He is what he is, and he is legitimately 18 - 3 with a ridiculous ERA, and 9 - 0 on the road. And his two Angels games are on the road, against a team of aggressive batters. The odds are in his favor. After this season, we should be grateful for having 3 Aces in the rotation.

Consider if the Yankees had continued bidding for Daisuke, and paid $50M for the privilege of talking with him, and he went 18 -3 for the Yanks in 2008, as one of their few pitchers who remained healthy, and nibbled up Sox hitters.

Daisuke is a moderately well paid SP, and his pal OKI has been a powerful bargain. They are a package. So Boston needs to accept this as well. We are where we are and what we are in large part because we were able to bring Daisuke and Oki from Japan, together. Sincere thanks for joining us, and for your excellent efforts, Daisuke and Oki. From a grateful fan.

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