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Coco or Jacoby?

October 12th, 2008 by Evan Brunell
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Should the Red Sox make a move to insert Coco Crisp into the lineup in place of the struggling Jacoby Ellsbury? Jacoby’s line this postseason is .207/.258/.310 in 29 AB, Coco’s is .400/.455/.600 in 10 AB. I plan on writing about this very question tomorrow, so help me figure out what we should do…

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  • TC says:
    October 12, 2008 at 7:25 PM

    Ellsbury looks overmatched most of the time. His slashing swing hasn’t been producing many hard hit balls. He’s often lunging over the plate as if he plans on taking a closer look at the pitch. The standard result is quick swing/weak contact. Crisp has likewise looked pretty bad at times, but his two shots last night probably outdistance Ellsbury’s last 15 plate appearances (if you add them up). Right now, Ellsbury’s only getting on if he tops a ball and beats it out or if he floats a weak “liner” over the infield. Go Coco.

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  • Tim Daloisio says:
    October 12, 2008 at 7:35 PM

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/shareit/K248
    Ellsbury owns Garza, (6-13)…Coco not so much (1-9)
    Ellsbury will be leading off tomorrow…

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  • Colin says:
    October 12, 2008 at 7:45 PM

    I agree with Tim. Ellsbury stays for Garza, but Coco definitely afterwards.
    Ellsbury is not good for the most part against Tampa.

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  • Bob says:
    October 12, 2008 at 8:04 PM

    mix and match them, Ellsbury should face Garza tomorrow, but this should be a platoon

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  • Bob says:
    October 12, 2008 at 8:04 PM

    It might be wise even to go with a Kotsay, Drew, Bay outfield and start Casey at 1st, thats the best hitting lineup they can put out there

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  • Steven Roth says:
    October 12, 2008 at 9:10 PM

    Tomorrow’s lineup should look like this:
    Ellsbury
    Pedroia
    Drew
    Youk
    Papi
    Bay
    Lowrie
    Varitek
    Cora (only because he’s probably going to start, not that I’m heavily in favor of putting him in!)
    Putting Papi in the 5th slot isn’t a bad idea because it’ll reduce some pressure and he can just focus on mashing the ball rather than trying to be the hero all the time.

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  • ranger fan says:
    October 12, 2008 at 10:41 PM

    salty or teagarden for bucholz?

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  • Anonymous says:
    October 12, 2008 at 11:57 PM

    Salty to the Sox, but not for Buchholz or Bowden.
    Salty and Teagarden are excess, in the same way we have about a dozen quality outfielders. Buchholz and Bowden are not excess. They are about to raise Sox pitching to the next level, we have no replacements for them at this time, and we been waiting a couple of years for them to move up.
    We would be dumb to trade one away and then turn around and have to trade still more prospects for a top pitcher to replace him.
    Re: Ells? I agree. Platoon him with Coco, playing to their greatest strengths. It would be poetic justice for Coco to become a beast with the bat and baserunning during postseason. Crisp’s speed and D for Salty?

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  • Evan Brunell says:
    October 13, 2008 at 12:14 AM

    Buchholz will command more than just Salty. I can see Bowden/Crisp for Salty.

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  • Smooth says:
    October 13, 2008 at 12:19 AM

    ELLSBURY!
    He adds an extra spark and is due after the past 2 games.
    My predictions are he goes 3-4 with a stolen base.
    He will make the difference in the game and add flair to the outfield especially in center.

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  • Sam K says:
    October 13, 2008 at 7:51 AM

    FWIW, we could trade either pitcher and bring in a FA in the offseason. Not that I’m in favor, but I’m just saying it’s an option. And since we clearly need options at the catcher position, we might as well keep an open mind.
    But trading a young pitcher is never ideal. Then again, we trade from surplus if we trade Coco, but Coco’s value is lessened by the fact that he’s surplus. Teams will try to stiff us because they know we’d rather not be paying him to be a 4th outfielder or platoon guy …

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  • ranger fan says:
    October 13, 2008 at 10:18 AM

    so no chance at bucholz or bowden?…or what would it take?

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  • M.A.G says:
    October 13, 2008 at 1:31 PM

    ranger fan.
    If we land C.C Sabhatia in the offseason, trade Buccholz or Bowden becomes much more likely.
    I want Teagarden.

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  • Gerry says:
    October 13, 2008 at 2:29 PM

    I’d rather find a way to bring back Shoppach. He was and is a good answer. Barring that, I think Theo should bet the farm and go after Posey and Lincecum.
    Will Tek stick around to mentor and transition to Coaching staff, or will he listen to Boras and find the highest short term bidder above 3/25. I think it’s either/or. Part of me would like to purge the Red Sox of Boras clients to set an example of how a team can protect themselves and baseball from such unreasonable behavior.
    Bowden will need time in AAA (just the way Buchholz and Ellsbury needed) before bringing him up, probably to cover an injury (to Wake?, A.J. Burnett?, Ben Sheets? CC?) Buchholz could stay there for a few weeks also to complete his degree in pitching.

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  • ranger fan says:
    October 13, 2008 at 5:50 PM

    bucholz for millwood and padilla?

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