Comments on: David Ortiz issues statement, speaks to reporters

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[...] MLB opened ‘cursory’ investigation into PEDs in Sox staff last year, A great, tainted memory, David Ortiz issues statement, speaks to reporters, Ortiz and Ramirez Said to Be on 2003 Doping List (via NYTimes) and back from 2007: Did Ortiz take [...]

By: Mostly Running.

Mostly Running. — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:32:36 +0000

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By: Mostly Running.

Mostly Running. — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:21:36 +0000

Back when Ortiz first admitted to drinking shakes, the constitution of which he did not know, I thought he would step up and become an outspoken critic of the Academy and recruiting system in the Dominican Republic and other Latin-American countries. I thought it would be a chance for him to say, “Hey, I probably used and I didn’t know it. It sucks for me because I can’t undo it, but maybe by drawing attention to this issue and the ‘out of sight, out of mind’ attitude that MLB has towards this, I can keep this junk out of 16 and 17 year olds’ bodies.”
With corruption scandals swirling around signing bonuses and kickbacks for scouts, can we trust that these guys aren’t doing whatever they feel necessary to get promising young talent signed by their big league clubs, even if that means compromising the health and eventual reputation of their clients/victims/prospects?
It is hard to excuse the players who made it big both fame and contract wise for using, whether knowingly or not. I had hoped that Ortiz would have used whatever he knew in ‘03 to create a stink and draw more attention to the issue for the folks that never made it. My only leap of faith that I’m making is that he did so behind the scenes when he did outreach work at home, and that maybe he had a message that is resonating still at the far edges of Selig’s reach.

By: John

John — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:09:18 +0000

Shame we have to be subjected to weeks, possibly months, of Ortiz-related PED crap. How many times can we say/write the same crap about our outrage and disappointment? Does anyone outside of the media even have those feelings anymore? I sure as hell don’t. Sox are in talks with Cleveland and San Diego regarding trades and big name bats and instead the focus will be Ortiz. Worst of all, now anti-Boston sports fans (and mostly Yankee fans) will have more reason to pile on the Sox. Ridiculous.

By: Gerry

Gerry — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:28:22 +0000

Rome knows full well that anyone who steps up now with an admission would be accused of “he’s only doing it now because he knows that list will be released soon”.
I do know this, however. Not too long ago, “body building” aids were in common use with virtually every athlete, and those “protein shakes” were sold at ‘health stores’ in bottles that looked like chocolate milk, and powders you mixed with chocolate milk. High school and collegiate athletes were encouraged to “drink up”. They were full of substances that were later identified as dangerous and widely banned. Two things:
1. It is entirely possible something showed up in Papi’s test of that nature. There are so many elusive combinations out there.
2. It is entirely possible that Dominican and Hispanic athletes and leagues got the word about these substances late and were the last to abandon them (if they have). The NEED to succeed as an athlete as the surest way out of abysmal poverty would far outweigh potential risk related to anything that increases the odds of success. We all know plenty of intelligent, educated, fully aware people who understand that smoking will surely kill them, or that fried foods will cause heart problems and diabetes . . . but convince themselves it’s OK. Combine that stubborn denial with a chance to win fame and fortune, and we have a cultural paradigm that just may explain (not excuse) the 104 who tested positive.

By: Eric

Eric — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:56:41 +0000

I don’t think he has any reason to lie. I will say this (a silver lining if you will); I hope he sets an example for how the rest should deal with this situation when their names come up. I’d really like to see someone do this right. God I’m reading what I just typed and I know it makes sense but… I’m just so tired of these guys copping out and lying and bullshitting when they get caught. Jim Rome said something along the lines of, when are we going to see a current big leaguer come forward before being exposed? I suppose holding my breath on that one is ill advised. But there’s something to be said about a man who shows character when he’s faced with situations like these. I hope Papi gets to the bottom of this and takes his medicine like a man.

By: Shane

Shane — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:04:51 +0000

I don’t think he’s lying… But I’ll admit I’m am biased as hell.

By: Bob

Bob — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:49:05 +0000

I should rephrase that to say I don’t assume that every player used steroids, but I’m never surprised, hell Manny Alexander and Paxton Crawford got caught

By: Bob

Bob — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:47:34 +0000

I don’t really care. I just assume everyone from that period used ped’s so it didn’t surprise me or destroy my world. As for the whole world series being tainted thing its retarded, as if the Red Sox didn’t face any teams whose best players were using steroids.

By: Samara Pearlstein

Samara Pearlstein — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:44:45 +0000

I don’t think he’s lying… but I may be clinging to wishful thinking. :/