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		<title>By: SamR</title>
		<link>http://firebrandal.com/2009/08/26/impact-of-the-billy-wagner-trade.html/comment-page-1#comment-43693</link>
		<dc:creator>SamR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t believe no one mentioned this earlier.  So true.  One of those picks turns into the next Lester or Buchholz, and this move becomes brilliant.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t believe no one mentioned this earlier.  So true.  One of those picks turns into the next Lester or Buchholz, and this move becomes brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>everyone is forgetting that when Wagner leaves the sox get 2 draft picks that&#039;s huge, we gave away nothing of value get the 2nd lefty that is desperately needed out of the pen and get TWO extra picks
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everyone is forgetting that when Wagner leaves the sox get 2 draft picks that&#8217;s huge, we gave away nothing of value get the 2nd lefty that is desperately needed out of the pen and get TWO extra picks</p>
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		<title>By: marcos</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Evan. Papelbon&#039;s comments and and actions are very selfish. I also used to like Papelbon because of his emotion and seemingly love for the game. But for the last 2 years, it seems like all he cares about is his contract. For some reason I get the vibe that he doesn&#039;t have a very good relationship with the front office. If he doesn&#039;t want to be a Red Sox that&#039;s fine. The Sox should just trade him for 3 prospects of the same talent level of the players that went to Cleveland for Martinez.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Evan. Papelbon&#8217;s comments and and actions are very selfish. I also used to like Papelbon because of his emotion and seemingly love for the game. But for the last 2 years, it seems like all he cares about is his contract. For some reason I get the vibe that he doesn&#8217;t have a very good relationship with the front office. If he doesn&#8217;t want to be a Red Sox that&#8217;s fine. The Sox should just trade him for 3 prospects of the same talent level of the players that went to Cleveland for Martinez.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Case</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just in case we haven&#039;t beaten this horse enough..
The Sox Players HATE Wagner.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://thereisnofuckingway.blogspot.com/2009/08/red-sox-hate-i-mean-pick-up-billy.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://thereisnofuckingway.blogspot.com/2009/08/red-sox-hate-i-mean-pick-up-billy.html&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just in case we haven&#8217;t beaten this horse enough..<br />
The Sox Players HATE Wagner.<br />
<a href="http://thereisnofuckingway.blogspot.com/2009/08/red-sox-hate-i-mean-pick-up-billy.html" rel="nofollow">http://thereisnofuckingway.blogspot.com/2009/08/red-sox-hate-i-mean-pick-up-billy.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes!   i, too, thought Papelbon looked MUCH more focused and like his ol&#039; fierce self.  he looked dominant again even with the double ...perhaps Wagner will spark Paps to resume that very intense glare/performance .
when i was being a bit wary of the Wagner trade i was worried about trading away any real talent for the short term rental but it seems to be all good.  and i was one who was wary of v-mart, too, to be honest... but it has been an excellent trade for the RS and i do think he has really sparked the O back.   i am looking forward to watching the game tonight... something i haven&#039;t said in about two weeks...
BTW   does anyone know if there is any &quot;official&quot; petition/movement about for those of us outside of NESN country who rely on MLB extra innings or MLB TV to ask for the silly blackout stuff to be stopped?!  the least they can do is look at exactly where some of these blackouts happen and see why so many of us are steamed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes!   i, too, thought Papelbon looked MUCH more focused and like his ol&#8217; fierce self.  he looked dominant again even with the double &#8230;perhaps Wagner will spark Paps to resume that very intense glare/performance .<br />
when i was being a bit wary of the Wagner trade i was worried about trading away any real talent for the short term rental but it seems to be all good.  and i was one who was wary of v-mart, too, to be honest&#8230; but it has been an excellent trade for the RS and i do think he has really sparked the O back.   i am looking forward to watching the game tonight&#8230; something i haven&#8217;t said in about two weeks&#8230;<br />
BTW   does anyone know if there is any &#8220;official&#8221; petition/movement about for those of us outside of NESN country who rely on MLB extra innings or MLB TV to ask for the silly blackout stuff to be stopped?!  the least they can do is look at exactly where some of these blackouts happen and see why so many of us are steamed.</p>
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		<title>By: polako1</title>
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		<dc:creator>polako1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paps, a little competition can&#039;t hurt you! Or are you just a tad insecure? Your stats this year certainly don&#039;t support your little posturing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paps, a little competition can&#8217;t hurt you! Or are you just a tad insecure? Your stats this year certainly don&#8217;t support your little posturing.</p>
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		<title>By: Minor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Pap is worried about losing his job, he should be focusing that paranoia on Okajima. Since his arrival I haven&#039;t been more comfortable with anyone on the mound and he looks better than ever right now. And while on the topic, I couldn&#039;t believe Francona went to Delcarmen last night with the game on the line. It worked out, but I think it was the wrong move.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Pap is worried about losing his job, he should be focusing that paranoia on Okajima. Since his arrival I haven&#8217;t been more comfortable with anyone on the mound and he looks better than ever right now. And while on the topic, I couldn&#8217;t believe Francona went to Delcarmen last night with the game on the line. It worked out, but I think it was the wrong move.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gagne,gagne,Gagne. G yes he sucked BUT the Sox DID
win a world series and Gagne got a Ring. We need
to let this go.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gagne,gagne,Gagne. G yes he sucked BUT the Sox DID<br />
win a world series and Gagne got a Ring. We need<br />
to let this go.</p>
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		<title>By: jvwalt</title>
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		<dc:creator>jvwalt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your assessment of the trade, and of Papelbon&#039;s comments. The appropriate response, Jonathan, would have been &quot;Billy Wagner? Great! Anything that makes our team stronger!&quot;
One small point I disagree with: &quot;the morass of relievers that have come through the Sox clubhouse since Justin Masterson departed.&quot; What morass is that, exactly? The one that constituted one of the best relief corps in baseball? And while I like Masterson and would have loved the chance to see him grow and develop in Boston, he was no great shakes in the bullpen this year. He was a middle-innings long man and spot starter, nothing more. His departure didn&#039;t substantially change the quality of the Sox bullpen.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your assessment of the trade, and of Papelbon&#8217;s comments. The appropriate response, Jonathan, would have been &#8220;Billy Wagner? Great! Anything that makes our team stronger!&#8221;<br />
One small point I disagree with: &#8220;the morass of relievers that have come through the Sox clubhouse since Justin Masterson departed.&#8221; What morass is that, exactly? The one that constituted one of the best relief corps in baseball? And while I like Masterson and would have loved the chance to see him grow and develop in Boston, he was no great shakes in the bullpen this year. He was a middle-innings long man and spot starter, nothing more. His departure didn&#8217;t substantially change the quality of the Sox bullpen.</p>
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		<title>By: Tessie's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tessie's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me, or did Papelbon seem a bit more focussed last night?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or did Papelbon seem a bit more focussed last night?</p>
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