Comments on: Guest Sunday: Turn it around, Theo!

By: Gerry

Gerry — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:51:51 +0000

Point well taken. Thanks.

By: radiohix

radiohix — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:00:31 +0000

That's great news!

By: Peter

Peter — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 04:25:29 +0000

For everyone shitting on Alex,

I'd just like to say, as a Braves fan, that C-n-C is one of the best Braves sites out there. It's a lot to ask for someone to step in and write something about a team they don't follow day-to-day. Expecting the same quality of analysis that you usually get here–from people that watch every game and follow the team closely–is both unrealistic and unfair. Just keep that in mind.

By: Gerry

Gerry — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:19:20 +0000

Most on this site expect Daisuke to be a solid 18W #3-4. and Wake to be his usual strong 12-17W #4-#5 when he comes back. There is little reason to suspect otherwise. Wake's 1st half #'s and Daisuke's 2nd half #'s are the model, as this is their normal bodies of work when healthy. They are both well worth their wages. Thanks for the #'s Daern.

By: evanbrunell

evanbrunell — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:03:41 +0000

Harry is posting Nov. 1.

By: -marcos-

-marcos- — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:23:53 +0000

I just think its too early to be critical about this new feature.

By: Daern

Daern — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:18:48 +0000

Speaking of cost: according to Fangraphs monetary value stuff, Wake has consistently been worth twice as much as he's been payed by the Sox in the context of what other teams pay for pitching.

By: Brayt

Brayt — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:10:04 +0000

Even if you look at ERA, 4.50 is the definition of a "quality start". This certainly seems acceptable from a number 4 or number 5 starter, even before you consider the cost.

By: Daern

Daern — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:40:32 +0000

When I said "Cardinals and Braves, the #3 and 4 best ERAs in baseball. ", I meant team ERAs.

By: Daern

Daern — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:39:41 +0000

This post seemed fine to me for most of it, but you lost me when you talked about Wakefield.

His 4.50 the past few years? Better than the ERAs this year of the fourth and fifth starters of the Yankees, and angels, as well as being better than the #4 starters of the Cardinals and Braves, the #3 and 4 best ERAs in baseball.

If we go by IP this year and not rotational slot, his 4.58 ERA this year beats out 3 out of five pitchers within 30 IP either way on the top 5 ERA teams.

If we put aside ERA and look at FIP, he is pretty much right in the middle of the pack for fourth/fifth starters(again, relative to IP, not rotational slot.) The average–from 15 pitchers within 30 IP of Wakefield–is 4.52.

As a side note, Wakefield's FIP and ERA are identical this year, at 4.58. Y'know who else had a 4.58 FIP? Jarrod Washburn, he of the 3.78 ERA.

Not quite a disaster if he spends the year as our #4 starter, especially since a convenient ace ain't walking through that door to help the rotation.