Episode #109
Hosts: Paul Testa, Tim Daloisio
Guests: none
Well, the season ended with a poetic justice as grotesque for Red Sox fans as 2004′s season ending was awesome. Unfortunately, the carnage that was September of 2011 didn’t end with Jonathan Papelbon walking off the mound in Baltimore. What would transpire of the following few days was as critical and possibly more damaging to the Red Sox future as the crushing on-field losses that kept the Red Sox out of the post season for the second straight season.
Paul and I talk about the collapse, the fractured clubhouse, the firing of Tito Francona, the future of Theo Epstein and which players should be taking blame and staying or going in 2012.
You may be surprised to hear the names of some of the players and front office members whose heads we come calling for as we vent along with all of you.
All that and more on this episode of Fireside Chats.
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Great show. You saved the best episode for last this year.
Thanks Maxwell — let me know what you would like to see more over next season from us (besides more episodes/consistency — I hear that loud and clear already).
You guys got some big balls to still say that this is a weekly pod cast. 10 pods' all year? You guys are great when you do this, but get off your lazy asses and do it.
Fair point Frank — I take responsibility. I moved back to MA from out of state over the summer and getting the family settled was priority #1. Glad to hear people missed us.
Ha jeez! Frank wants more! Thanks good news for Paul and Tim.
Gotta disagree with you guys on Ellsbury being a "prima donna". The information on him being "reclusive" you got from Jackie MacMullan's piece for ESPN Boston. From everything I've read he's a quiet guy, private (not unlike JD Drew, who is not criticized for the same), and has played with Jed Lowrie in different leagues in the Northwest since high school – so they go back a ways. He's also good friends with Pedroia, who is quick to jump to his defense, as is Ortiz – they seem to have bonded over the course of the season. Of course he's not anxious to get in front of the cameras after the game – with the way the media skewered him last season, I'd be skittish too. He's obviously had some media training since then. I think of anyone he and Pedroia were probably just trying to keep their heads down and do their work, and ignore clubhouse factors.
One additional thing that may be a factor – not to stereotype, but a lot of Native American tribes believe in silence as a virtue – it is regarded as respectful and even sacred. So it may also be a cultural thing he was raised with.