[picappgallerysingle id=”3228312″ align=”right”]After Troy’s article on Ellsbury’s impending shift to left field, some feedback from our readers had some questions about some of the reasons for Ellsbury’s decline in defense this year. Peter Gammons brought up a small story about how Rickey Henderson felt his basestealing affected his performance in centerfield.. yet no where else.
Since it’s the holiday season, I figured why not answer one of our commentor’s question: Is their any data showing that excellent base stealers predictably decline defensively?
Now, collecting this data is not the easiest study I’ve tried. Defensive statistics and qualification per position can sometimes be tough to obtain. Outfielders tend to shift positions more frequently, even over a small sample of years. Defense analysis is something I intend to look into more this year, but to start, here’s a simple look at the past two years of “primary” centerfielders.
2009 Centerfielders
Name | Team | G | AB | SB | CS | AVG | UZR/150 |
Jacoby Ellsbury | Red Sox | 153 | 624 | 70 | 12 | 0.301 | -18.3 |
Michael Bourn | Astros | 157 | 606 | 61 | 12 | 0.285 | 8.7 |
Nyjer Morgan | – – – | 120 | 469 | 42 | 17 | 0.307 | 40.5 |
B.J. Upton | Rays | 144 | 560 | 42 | 14 | 0.241 | 11.8 |
Matt Kemp | Dodgers | 159 | 606 | 34 | 8 | 0.297 | 3.1 |
Scott Podsednik | White Sox | 132 | 537 | 30 | 13 | 0.304 | 1.7 |
Dexter Fowler | Rockies | 135 | 433 | 27 | 10 | 0.266 | -20.3 |
Shane Victorino | Phillies | 156 | 620 | 25 | 8 | 0.292 | -4.2 |
Alex Rios | – – – | 149 | 582 | 24 | 5 | 0.247 | -3.7 |
Denard Span | Twins | 145 | 578 | 23 | 10 | 0.311 | -7.4 |
Curtis Granderson | Tigers | 160 | 631 | 20 | 6 | 0.249 | 1.6 |
Nate McLouth | – – – | 129 | 507 | 19 | 6 | 0.256 | 8.2 |
Torii Hunter | Angels | 119 | 451 | 18 | 4 | 0.299 | -2.1 |
Vernon Wells | Blue Jays | 158 | 630 | 17 | 4 | 0.26 | -18.7 |
Franklin Gutierrez | Mariners | 153 | 565 | 16 | 5 | 0.283 | 27.1 |
Grady Sizemore | Indians | 106 | 436 | 13 | 8 | 0.248 | -4 |
Adam Jones | Orioles | 119 | 473 | 10 | 4 | 0.277 | -4.1 |
Melky Cabrera | Yankees | 154 | 485 | 10 | 2 | 0.274 | 2.3 |
Marlon Byrd | Rangers | 146 | 547 | 8 | 4 | 0.283 | -9.5 |
Mike Cameron | Brewers | 149 | 544 | 7 | 3 | 0.25 | 10.3 |
Kosuke Fukudome | Cubs | 146 | 499 | 6 | 10 | 0.259 | -18.1 |
Aaron Rowand | Giants | 144 | 499 | 4 | 1 | 0.261 | 1.5 |
Colby Rasmus | Cardinals | 147 | 474 | 3 | 1 | 0.251 | 3.4 |
The first thing I wanted to do is see if there’s any correlation between the amount of steals a player racks up and his UZR/150. There’s effectively none in this 2009 sample. A 0.01 factor shows that the amount of steals by a player has no real connection to the player’s defense.
Now, in my opinion, a speedster should always have an edge in outfield defense. It would make sense that a fast player has a huge advantage in his effective range over a player that runs like Kevin Millar.
Well, that’s only one year. So I pulled up the 2008 Centerfielders and saw if anything else was present there.
Name | Team | G | AB | SB | CS | AVG | UZR/150 |
Willy Taveras | Rockies | 133 | 479 | 68 | 7 | 0.251 | -3 |
Jacoby Ellsbury | Red Sox | 145 | 554 | 50 | 11 | 0.28 | 6.9 |
B.J. Upton | Rays | 145 | 531 | 44 | 16 | 0.273 | 11.1 |
Ichiro Suzuki | Mariners | 162 | 686 | 43 | 4 | 0.31 | 14.6 |
Michael Bourn | Astros | 138 | 467 | 41 | 10 | 0.229 | 2 |
Grady Sizemore | Indians | 157 | 634 | 38 | 5 | 0.268 | 0.9 |
Shane Victorino | Phillies | 146 | 570 | 36 | 11 | 0.293 | 7.8 |
Matt Kemp | Dodgers | 155 | 606 | 35 | 11 | 0.29 | 2 |
Carlos Gomez | Twins | 153 | 577 | 33 | 11 | 0.258 | 16.1 |
Alex Rios | Blue Jays | 155 | 635 | 32 | 8 | 0.291 | 23.8 |
Carlos Beltran | Mets | 161 | 606 | 25 | 3 | 0.284 | 8.8 |
Lastings Milledge | Nationals | 138 | 523 | 24 | 9 | 0.268 | -20.1 |
Nate McLouth | Pirates | 152 | 597 | 23 | 3 | 0.276 | -14.3 |
Torii Hunter | Angels | 146 | 551 | 19 | 5 | 0.278 | -13 |
Mike Cameron | Brewers | 120 | 444 | 17 | 5 | 0.243 | 15.6 |
Chris Young | Diamondbacks | 160 | 625 | 14 | 5 | 0.248 | 0.6 |
Curtis Granderson | Tigers | 141 | 553 | 12 | 4 | 0.28 | -9.4 |
David DeJesus | Royals | 135 | 518 | 11 | 8 | 0.307 | -23.5 |
Adam Jones | Orioles | 132 | 477 | 10 | 3 | 0.27 | 11.5 |
Josh Hamilton | Rangers | 156 | 624 | 9 | 1 | 0.304 | -17.7 |
Skip Schumaker | Cardinals | 153 | 540 | 8 | 2 | 0.302 | -13.5 |
Aaron Rowand | Giants | 152 | 549 | 2 | 4 | 0.271 | -6.1 |
This season, the correlation of stolen bases versus UZR/150 was much higher, 0.410. My guess lies in each end of the spectrum. Five players all with poor steals totals (minus Adam Jones) all with abysmal UZR/150s. While Milledge and McLouth ruined the positive values in the upper half of the list, we started to see at least some players with very high steal totals turn in above average UZR/150 ratings.
Still, however, it looks as though as a player’s steals increase, his possible UZR/150 rating also increases. I used the 2009 data again and plotted a trendline over all the data.
While not highly significant, the trend does have a positive slope.
Now, I don’t think this is anything ground breaking. Like I said earlier, it’s only natural to assume that given two equal players, the faster player should be able to cover more ground. I found Gammons’ claim very odd, personally. We’d have to find some centerfielders more similar to Henderson, and check their steals vs UZR/150 over their entire career and see how things shake out. Does their defense suffer as their steals increase?
This, however, is a good first step. The next time I revisit this, we’ll look at a few older centerfielders with long careers, like Torii Hunter, Mike Cameron, and others, and see how their steals totals have affected their defense over the years.
As a quick preview, here’s Carlos Beltran’s steal totals and UZR/150 ratings since 2002 (when UZR/150 was collected) to present:
2002: 35 / 9.2
2003: 41 / 10.6
2004: 42 / 3.6
2005: 17 / -6.9
2006: 18 / 5.7
2007: 23 / 0.9
2008: 25 / 8.8
2009: 11 / -8.5
Beltran’s two negative UZR/150 values were during his first year as a Met, and his injury riddled 2009.
I’m still standing by my claim that these two things are pretty much unrelated, and that players like Rickey and Ellsbury are better defenders outside of centerfield simply because they are easier defensive positions to play. However, the more layers on this onion I can peel back, the better. If anything, maybe we can end up finding something else to shed a little more light on how to analyze defense.